Small overlap crash tests: Various things

"EL_ULY" (uly)
09/15/2015 at 10:08 • Filed to: crash test

Chrysler 300: Result - Fail

Scion iA: Result - Good

Lexus ES350: Result -Good

Honda Pilot: Result - Good

Prius C: Result - Good

Audi Q3: Result - Good

(video courtesy of IIHS Youtube Channel )

DISCUSSION (38)

Milky > EL_ULY
09/15/2015 at 10:14

Not really surprised the oldest car got the worst score. Was there any overlap test in ‘05 when the LX cars came out?

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > EL_ULY
09/15/2015 at 10:15

The basic structure of the 300 does happen to be 15+ years old.

My citroen won't start > EL_ULY
09/15/2015 at 10:17

The wheels on the Chrysler go round and round, round and round

The Driver’s legs go crush crush crush, crush crush crush

The Arterial Blood goes swish swish, swish swish

All through a small crash around the town.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Milky
09/15/2015 at 10:21

Or when that E-class was developed in the late 90s?

ly2v8-Brian > My citroen won't start
09/15/2015 at 10:23

No the blood goes spurt spurt spurt.

My citroen won't start > ly2v8-Brian
09/15/2015 at 10:26

You are thinking Venous Blood, Arterial blood is more pressurized.

Milky > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
09/15/2015 at 10:28

Good point. Speaking of late 90’s mercs, I know if I’m hitting someone, do it straight on.

ly2v8-Brian > My citroen won't start
09/15/2015 at 10:29

Quite.

carcrasher88 > EL_ULY
09/15/2015 at 10:38

Chrysler 300 - Old car, old architecture, predictable results.

Scion iA - Looks like they made a pretty smart choice using the Mazda2 sedan for the iA, but I can’t help but think this thing could be a pedestrian hazard in a crash. I mean, the bumper cover flew off, the battery went flying, and the hood all but completely came off as well.

Lexus ES - Pretty good job. Not sure if the fact that the dummy’s head stayed with the airbags instead of going back towards the headrest is a good thing or not, though.

Pilot - Definitely expecting a TSP+ on this one. Amazed that the left front wheel completely broke apart, resulting in the tire rolling away on it’s own after the impact.

Prius C - Not really sure how this got a Good rating, when the dummy’s head went right through both airbags and towards the dashboard and a-pillar.

Q3 - Another good test result for Audi. The wheel did the same as the Pilot, leaving the tire to go off on it’s own.

wiffleballtony > EL_ULY
09/15/2015 at 10:56

I appreciate the importance of safety and crash test standards. However I can’t help but feel that the IIHS makes up tests to stay in business. What’s next a piano drop impact test?

JR1 > EL_ULY
09/15/2015 at 11:04

Really I would feel pretty safe in a Chrysler 300 if it crashed.

kanadanmajava1 > EL_ULY
09/15/2015 at 11:21

I wonder how the crash test might go with steel wheels. They should bend and absorb the energy more easily.

This might be a bit painful.

Kinja'd!!!

Echo51 > carcrasher88
09/15/2015 at 11:23

I’d rather smash the rims then take it to the shin. Deformation is key, stiff stuff that keeps shape is not.

BigBlock440 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
09/15/2015 at 11:25

What does the shape of the rear suspension and steering column have to do with overlap crash results?

BigBlock440 > wiffleballtony
09/15/2015 at 11:27

They absolutely do. They’re aim is to reduce the cost of insurance payouts, if they can’t continue to do so, they have no reason for existing.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > BigBlock440
09/15/2015 at 11:39

The steering column is what the driver hits inside the car. The rear chassis has to be shaped to mount that design. Same with the interior to house that column. You can’t just plug in a suspension into any chassis. So yes, the chassis itself has elements dating back to the 90s.

BigBlock440 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
09/15/2015 at 11:54

How does the rear of the car have to be shaped to mount the steering column? It doesn’t go anywhere near the rear of the car. And the steering column isn’t structural or chassis related.

You’re saying the rear suspension has to be designed around this part?

Kinja'd!!!

And that it’s at all related to the crash structure? Sure.

Kinja'd!!!

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > BigBlock440
09/15/2015 at 11:59

Wow, way to purposely try to misread something.....use some common sense. I specified that the interior has to be built a certain way to use the steering column and that the chassis has to be made and designed a certain way for the rear suspension. Where you got what you got.....I have no clue.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > EL_ULY
09/15/2015 at 12:00

Why did the Chrysler fail? It looked fine to me. Unless I missed something?

BigBlock440 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
09/15/2015 at 12:09

The steering column is what the driver hits inside the car. The rear chassis has to be shaped to mount that design.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > BigBlock440
09/15/2015 at 12:32

What does the shape of the rear suspension and steering column have to do with overlap crash results?

That was your previous post. Then I respond with

“The steering column is what the driver hits inside the car. The rear chassis has to be shaped to mount that design. “

Did you forget what you asked?

BigBlock440 > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
09/15/2015 at 12:51

The overlap test happens at the front of the vehicle. Neither the steering column nor the rear suspension design (pretty much the only things to come from the e-class) have any effect on the small overlap test. Your wording makes it sound like you meant the rear suspension needs to be designed with the steering column in mind.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > EL_ULY
09/15/2015 at 14:20

The 300 doesn’t look bad, seems about the same. I don’t get it.

bhardoin > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD
09/15/2015 at 20:54

Watch the overhead view, where you can see the left front wheel suddenly appear under the steering wheel.

Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD > bhardoin
09/15/2015 at 23:30

Still don’t see it. Sorry.

tpw_rules > wiffleballtony
09/16/2015 at 00:48

Given that IIHS has access to a gargantuan pile of insurance data, that’s basically true, but it is beneficial. They went through the data and found a lot of people were dying in this type of crash, so they designed a test to ensure that newer cars would be safer in this situation in order to reduce overall deaths. It’s sort of a cat-vs-mouse game but their aim is to reduce the amount of money insurance has to pay people by reducing deaths and injuries in accidents.

wiffleballtony > tpw_rules
09/16/2015 at 09:50

Not that I don’t believe them, but it seems unlikely to me that people are basically hitting brick walls at high speeds just on the front corner. I could see how you may hit an oncoming car in that manner, but the oncoming car has crumple zones. The object they are hitting does not.

EL_ULY > My citroen won't start
09/16/2015 at 11:04

LOlol :]

EL_ULY > wiffleballtony
09/16/2015 at 11:05

I support the piano drop test

EL_ULY > carcrasher88
09/16/2015 at 11:06

the 300 result was predictable indeed. I still expected a bit more A pillar crush like the Lincoln MKZ or whatever the sedan is called. That thing sucked big time

EL_ULY > Iheartmy365kHonda - Car enthusiasts do like FWD
09/16/2015 at 11:06

Maybe too much G force and leg damage

EL_ULY > kanadanmajava1
09/16/2015 at 11:07

OUCH!!!!!!

EL_ULY > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer
09/16/2015 at 11:07

lol indeed

EL_ULY > JR1
09/16/2015 at 11:07

I thought the same for the current Lincoln sedan... but that had a waaay worse cash test result

EL_ULY > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8
09/16/2015 at 11:08

Maybe their g-force data and leg damage

facw > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8
09/16/2015 at 11:32

The front wheel in the 300 gets driven straight back into the driver’s foot well. Foot well intrusion is the main mode of failure on these.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > facw
09/16/2015 at 11:49

Ah gotcha.

JR1 > EL_ULY
09/16/2015 at 12:03

The MKS? Or MKZ?